Search found 19 matches

by Lisboa
02 Feb 2024, 17:28
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Financial guarantee
Replies: 19
Views: 1267

Re: Financial guarantee

Thanks everyone I've discussed with the team. We noted that we apply to IFRS 9B2.5 (a)" If the financial guarantee contract was issued to an unrelated party in a stand-alone arm’s length transaction, its fair value at inception is likely to equal the premium received, unless there is evidence t...
by Lisboa
02 Feb 2024, 12:51
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Financial guarantee
Replies: 19
Views: 1267

Re: Financial guarantee

Let me clarify the adjustment amount:

1000usd (the book value of the shares)*market rate for financial guarantee, right?

Or you mean 1000usd*probably of associate's default?
by Lisboa
02 Feb 2024, 12:47
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Financial guarantee
Replies: 19
Views: 1267

Re: Financial guarantee

Dear DJP, thanks for your assistance.

Before coming there I've discussed the issue within the team, obtained the similar view, but doubting. So we've got your opinion to support ours. Thanks again and thanks you all for great forum
by Lisboa
02 Feb 2024, 12:12
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Financial guarantee
Replies: 19
Views: 1267

Re: Financial guarantee

Hi DJP,

The Parent is obliged to sell the shares and transfer the amount received to the bank.

The pledge amount is less than the loan liability. I assume the second parent in associate provides the greater portion of a pledge or any other guarantee to the bank.
by Lisboa
02 Feb 2024, 10:08
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Financial guarantee
Replies: 19
Views: 1267

Re: Financial guarantee

Hi Ketan, thank you for your reply.

Yes, in case of associate's default, the Parent is obliged to sell the stake on the open market and paid off the associate's liability.
by Lisboa
01 Feb 2024, 16:33
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Financial guarantee
Replies: 19
Views: 1267

Re: Financial guarantee

I understand :), I simplified the description, it's a joint venture, so the second partner provides its pledge too.
by Lisboa
01 Feb 2024, 14:55
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Financial guarantee
Replies: 19
Views: 1267

Financial guarantee

Dear all, The parent company pledges shares of its 100% subsidiary for the bank loan received by its associate. Assume that market value and the book value of the shares is 1000 USD, and the loan liability is 5000 USD. No written agreements between the parent and its associated is signed that oblige...
by Lisboa
14 Dec 2023, 17:10
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Digital assets treatment
Replies: 8
Views: 1354

Re: Digital assets treatment

Many thanks! I will check
by Lisboa
13 Dec 2023, 19:21
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Digital assets treatment
Replies: 8
Views: 1354

Re: Digital assets treatment

Dear Marek, I will.

Thank you for opportunity to post questions
by Lisboa
12 Dec 2023, 13:24
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Digital assets treatment
Replies: 8
Views: 1354

Re: Digital assets treatment

Dear DJP, thank you for your reply. yes, your understanding is very accurate except for p.2, as the potential customer might be a different person. An investor i benefits from increasing of the potential price. We have discussed the scenario with a team and think it would be a financial liability. D...
by Lisboa
12 Dec 2023, 12:14
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Digital assets treatment
Replies: 8
Views: 1354

Digital assets treatment

Dear all, A company plans to sell a digital assets to investors backed by its inventory under development. A potential investor might buy a part of that inventory in the form of a digital assets. Upon expiration date, when inventory is completed and sold out, the digital assets is redeemed at upside...
by Lisboa
08 Sep 2023, 23:15
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Associate holding equity instruments of the Acquirer
Replies: 2
Views: 15905

Associate holding equity instruments of the Acquirer

Dear all, The public company acquires a stake in an associate that is engaged in investment activities and has a significant package of own equity instruments of the acquiring company. Accordingly, the associate earns (or vice versa) also from the revaluation of such instruments. So it seems that th...
by Lisboa
24 Sep 2021, 09:56
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: IFRS 15 and IAS 28, Revenue to the associate
Replies: 10
Views: 2823

Re: IFRS 15 and IAS 28, Revenue to the associate

DJP wrote: 24 Sep 2021, 09:55 The question is the amount of revenue that you are recognising on the sale from A to B. If you are buying back some of those properties, then the revenue recognised on the sales from A to B should perhaps be adjusted to reflect that.
Thank you
by Lisboa
24 Sep 2021, 09:42
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: IFRS 15 and IAS 28, Revenue to the associate
Replies: 10
Views: 2823

Re: IFRS 15 and IAS 28, Revenue to the associate

no, I am saying the same as pub_acco "Usually, revenue is not recognized under IFRS 15 in such a situation because the risks and control over the products are effectively not transferred to B." Okay, but how you will recognise the gain (ie difference between the purchase price of the apar...
by Lisboa
24 Sep 2021, 09:27
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: IFRS 15 and IAS 28, Revenue to the associate
Replies: 10
Views: 2823

Re: IFRS 15 and IAS 28, Revenue to the associate

DJP wrote: 24 Sep 2021, 09:23 You don't have to have a promise to buy back, but if that's what happens in practice, that's how you should account for it.
Hi!

Do you mean I could recognize both types of revenues? From A to B and from A to local customers, right?
by Lisboa
23 Sep 2021, 11:58
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: IFRS 15 and IAS 28, Revenue to the associate
Replies: 10
Views: 2823

Re: IFRS 15 and IAS 28, Revenue to the associate

I'm not fully understanding the arrangement, but to me it sounds like a sort of repurchase agreements where A promises to buy back some products when selling them to B. Usually, revenue is not recognized under IFRS 15 in such a situation because the risks and control over the products are effective...
by Lisboa
23 Sep 2021, 10:27
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: IFRS 15 and IAS 28, Revenue to the associate
Replies: 10
Views: 2823

Re: IFRS 15 and IAS 28, Revenue to the associate

Actually, A buys rights for the apartments from B, and then sells them to final customers, yes. According to local legislation, "rights" are uncompleted apartments. If rights are still to be sold before the completion, then A becomes an owner of completed apartments and sells them as they ...
by Lisboa
22 Sep 2021, 13:24
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: IFRS 15 and IAS 28, Revenue to the associate
Replies: 10
Views: 2823

IFRS 15 and IAS 28, Revenue to the associate

Dear members, The construction company A has the investment in associated company B. Company A provides construction services to company B to build a residential building. B sells the apartments to the customers. Company A decides to acquire some apartments in the constructed building itself and the...