Hi!
We add it to the gross carrying balance since what happens is that the customer's monthly payments go up because of them (they have to amortize of the fee for the rest of the loan).
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- 02 Nov 2022, 15:16
- Forum: IFRS-related topics
- Topic: IFRS 9. Application of par. B5.4.6 for overdues
- Replies: 8
- Views: 10587
- 02 Nov 2022, 13:19
- Forum: IFRS-related topics
- Topic: IFRS 9. Application of par. B5.4.6 for overdues
- Replies: 8
- Views: 10587
Re: IFRS 9. Application of par. B5.4.6 for overdues
Hi! I can only speak for how we do this, but we do revise the gross-carrying amount, at least partially. Since the customers earn overdue fees, these will accrue interest using the nominal rate, so the balance the customer owes us goes up. However, the recalculation is less formal than what is descr...
- 09 Oct 2022, 16:13
- Forum: IFRS-related topics
- Topic: ECL on bank current accounts
- Replies: 14
- Views: 36295
Re: ECL on bank current accounts
Found this from EY that makes the same interpretation: For demand deposits that have no fixed maturity and can be withdrawn by the holder on very short notice (e.g., one day) (assuming there is no contractual or legal constraint that could prevent the holder from withdrawing its cash at any time), t...
- 08 Oct 2022, 15:03
- Forum: IFRS-related topics
- Topic: ECL on bank current accounts
- Replies: 14
- Views: 36295
Re: ECL on bank current accounts
Hi! Interesting question. If you have the money as a non-maturity deposit, I would refer to: IFRS 9.5.5.19 The maximum period to consider when measuring expected credit losses is the maximum contractual period (including extension options) over which the entity is exposed to credit risk and not a lo...
- 22 Sep 2022, 11:18
- Forum: IFRS-related topics
- Topic: Writing off a tax recoverable
- Replies: 13
- Views: 7809
Re: Writing off a tax recoverable
Tax is not all my field, but if you have a receivable outstanding, would it not fall under the scope of IFRS 9 and you take an impairment on it based on the ECL model?
- 15 Sep 2022, 17:34
- Forum: IFRS-related topics
- Topic: Credit line accounting
- Replies: 8
- Views: 4008
Re: Credit line accounting
I realized that I might have misread the question and that it might have been asked from the lender's perspective. In such a case, it depends on who decides if a drawdown occurs. If it is the lender, then you can treat them separately since the lender can do a separate assessment for each, but if it...
- 15 Sep 2022, 16:48
- Forum: IFRS-related topics
- Topic: Credit line accounting
- Replies: 8
- Views: 4008
Re: Credit line accounting
I only worked on the receivable side, so little to no experience with a credit line as a liability. Still, the only reason a lender needs to care about the distinction is due to the need to forecast the consequence of additional drawdowns on ECL on the combined line. From the borrower's side, you wo...
- 22 Aug 2022, 08:06
- Forum: IFRS-related topics
- Topic: Subsequent measurement of loan on revolving basis under IFRS 9
- Replies: 12
- Views: 2287
Re: Subsequent measurement of loan on revolving basis under IFRS 9
Hi! In the case of pass-through, I would look at IFRS 9.3.2.5 to see if these conditions are valid (company A being the entity in this case, the government being the eventual recipients and the original asset being the loan receivables from company B): 9.3.2.5: When an entity retains the contractual...
- 16 Aug 2022, 19:54
- Forum: IFRS-related topics
- Topic: IFRS 9 ECL calculation after a contractual modification
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1528
Re: IFRS 9 ECL calculation after a contractual modification
Thanks a lot for the help in better understanding the matter!
- 16 Aug 2022, 19:21
- Forum: IFRS-related topics
- Topic: IFRS 9 ECL calculation after a contractual modification
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1528
Re: IFRS 9 ECL calculation after a contractual modification
Thank you for the response! The rationale for the 0.9 CU is as follows (please do not hesitate to point out if there are any flaws you see in the argument): Right after the modification, the contractual balance is still 90.5, that is the amount we can go after the customer to try to collect (since t...
- 16 Aug 2022, 17:54
- Forum: IFRS-related topics
- Topic: IFRS 9 ECL calculation after a contractual modification
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1528
Re: IFRS 9 ECL calculation after a contractual modification
Hi! Thank you for the response Marek! Using typical numbers, we would expect a PD12 of around 4 % and LGD = 50 %. If the instrument is assumed to be in stage 1, the 1 year PD would then just be (since the payments are yearly), 4 % x 90.5 x 50 % = 1.8 CU. While this number is small compared to the lo...
- 16 Aug 2022, 09:15
- Forum: IFRS-related topics
- Topic: IFRS 9 ECL calculation after a contractual modification
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1528
IFRS 9 ECL calculation after a contractual modification
Hi! I would be interested in hearing what you members in this Forum think about the interaction between the rules for contractual modification and ECL calculation in IFRS 9. A specific example: A loan of 100 CU with eir = 10 % and payment at the end of each year, with a maturity of 15 years, is issu...
- 29 Jun 2022, 07:00
- Forum: General accounting and financial reporting discussion
- Topic: P&L or P/L?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5086
Re: P&L or P/L?
PnL or P&L gives the correct impression that one is looking at a combined concept
P/L gives the impression of a ratio (like C/I or P/E), which it is not. Not a problem if you know what it means, but good terminology should really explain itself
P/L gives the impression of a ratio (like C/I or P/E), which it is not. Not a problem if you know what it means, but good terminology should really explain itself
- 20 Jun 2022, 07:15
- Forum: General accounting and financial reporting discussion
- Topic: P&L or P/L?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5086
Re: P&L or P/L?
We use PnL
- 21 Apr 2022, 10:14
- Forum: IFRS-related topics
- Topic: IFRS 9 significant increase in credit risk
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1125
Re: IFRS 9 significant increase in credit risk
Thank for the answer Leo, fully agree with the interpretation and good explanation!
- 21 Apr 2022, 07:51
- Forum: IFRS-related topics
- Topic: IFRS 9 significant increase in credit risk
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1125
Re: IFRS 9 significant increase in credit risk
Hi! Thank you, Leo, for the response; I fully agree with that interpretation. To give a concrete example. On a typical 10-year loan product that we offer, we have a very high default rate during the first year and much lower the rest of the term. For example, assume that on a portfolio level, the li...
- 20 Apr 2022, 14:24
- Forum: IFRS-related topics
- Topic: IFRS 9 significant increase in credit risk
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1125
IFRS 9 significant increase in credit risk
Hi! I am currently reviewing the policy for IFRS 9 significant increase in credit risk for my firm and we are discussing how to interpret the standard. In particular, our discussion is on the following section: B5.5.11 Because of the relationship between the expected life and the risk of a default o...
- 16 Apr 2022, 14:01
- Forum: IFRS-related topics
- Topic: IFRS 9 - Lifetime Expected Loss - time slices below one year
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1415
Re: IFRS 9 - Lifetime Expected Loss - time slices below one year
Hi finmase! There are many methods for turning a 1-year PD into a monthly PD, so I will illustrate a simple one (which only requires the PD12 value) and a more complex one (which requires access to additional information). 1: Simple method Assume that the hazard of default is constant over the perio...