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by exIFRS
14 Aug 2020, 09:37
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Accounting for a call option relating to purchase of property
Replies: 9
Views: 4201

Re: Accounting for a call option relating to purchase of property

One of the things I always used to tell young auditors was when you have a transaction that seems difficult to account for you have to first tease out the economics. Why is this being done. When you had a transaction that the more you looked at it the less sense it made, almost invariably it was som...
by exIFRS
13 Aug 2020, 10:27
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Different approaches to recycling of FV gains/losses in IFRS 9
Replies: 32
Views: 8227

Re: Different approaches to recycling of FV gains/losses in IFRS 9

@JRSB (I am assuming you are London based or nearby, apologies if this is a wrong assumption) when @Marek is next in London, we can grab a beverage of choice and I will tell you all about OCI. Including the time one of the Board Members had coffee mugs produced for all the other Board Members that r...
by exIFRS
11 Aug 2020, 17:53
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: IAS 1 - Classification of liabilities as current or non-current
Replies: 14
Views: 2322

Re: IAS 1 - Classification of liabilities as current or non-current

I agree with you Marek, I think the logic is flawed in the example provided. Almost every loan is conditional in some sense, most become immediately due if, for example, you miss a payment. But I think this is the reason the IFRS changed the language, not because they wanted to change the outcome, b...
by exIFRS
08 Aug 2020, 23:20
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Different approaches to recycling of FV gains/losses in IFRS 9
Replies: 32
Views: 8227

Re: Different approaches to recycling of FV gains/losses in IFRS 9

I should also add that just because the Basis of Conclusions says "One of the primary reasons is that recycling would create the need to assess equity investments for impairment" does not mean this was one of the primary reasons, it may just be a convenient rationale, that provides support...
by exIFRS
08 Aug 2020, 23:10
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Different approaches to recycling of FV gains/losses in IFRS 9
Replies: 32
Views: 8227

Re: Different approaches to recycling of FV gains/losses in IFRS 9

Unfortunately the IFRS meeting records weren't as comprehensive back in 2009 when this matter was discussed, so I can't get a record of the actual Board discussion (though it may exist on audio tape but I am not that enthused to go back and review). There is a specific paper addressing OCI and recyc...
by exIFRS
07 Aug 2020, 15:20
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: IAS 1 - Classification of liabilities as current or non-current
Replies: 14
Views: 2322

Re: IAS 1 - Classification of liabilities as current or non-current

The wording is unfortunately a little ambiguous in paragraph 69 which makes this potentially confusing. Effectively the first test is, is the liability current. A liability is current if it is part of your operating cycle (paragraph 70) no matter how long you have to pay it, or if you have to pay it...
by exIFRS
20 Jul 2020, 10:27
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Capitalising installation fees
Replies: 8
Views: 2110

Re: Capitalising installation fees

A number of the big four have put out quite good guides specific to telecommunications. One that immediately comes to mind is this one by pwc: https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/audit-service ... ations.pdf

May be worth a read.
by exIFRS
17 Jul 2020, 18:50
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: IFRS 16 Covid rent concessions
Replies: 20
Views: 5274

Re: IFRS 16 Covid rent concessions

That about sums it up. Best you can do is drag out finalisation and hope for endorsement sooner rather than later. ;)
by exIFRS
17 Jul 2020, 18:40
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: IFRS 16 Covid rent concessions
Replies: 20
Views: 5274

Re: IFRS 16 Covid rent concessions

EFRAG expects endorsement in Q3/Q4 of this year. I assume it will be retroactive back to 01/06/2020 in line with IFRS effective date?

http://www.efrag.org/Assets/Download?as ... %25202.pdf
by exIFRS
13 Jul 2020, 19:13
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Treatment of professional fees paid to raise capital
Replies: 16
Views: 23646

Re: Treatment of professional fees paid to raise capital

To be fair IAS 32 Para 37 says that "the costs of an equity transaction that is abandoned are recognised as an expense" so no it would not still be in equity. But that implies to me otherwise, if not abandoned but successful, they would be recognised as a contra-equity (by application of t...
by exIFRS
08 Jul 2020, 16:06
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Treatment of professional fees paid to raise capital
Replies: 16
Views: 23646

Re: Treatment of professional fees paid to raise capital

Personally that feels like a very strict reading of incremental. I would apply the "but for test". But for the intention to raise the capital would we have incurred the cost. In this case I believe the answer is no. So the entire amount is accrued as share issue costs (contra-equity), in t...
by exIFRS
02 Jul 2020, 18:51
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: IFRS9- Impairment of Financial Assets
Replies: 5
Views: 1193

Re: IFRS9- Impairment of Financial Assets

Despite what the standard says: "When measuring ECL, an entity need not necessarily identify every possible scenario. However, it shall consider the risk of probability that a credit loss occurs by reflecting the possibility that a credit loss occurs and the possibility that no credit loss occu...
by exIFRS
02 Jul 2020, 18:30
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: FX on translation of sub
Replies: 3
Views: 896

Re: FX on translation of sub

Cool. I was over thinking it.
by exIFRS
02 Jul 2020, 18:13
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: FX on translation of sub
Replies: 3
Views: 896

Re: FX on translation of sub

I fear I am being thick. You mean beyond the final sentence of what is in IAS21.41?
by exIFRS
01 Jul 2020, 12:59
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Common control transactions
Replies: 24
Views: 5260

Re: Common control transactions

And don't forget IAS 8 Para 10: In the absence of an IFRS that specifically applies to a transaction, other event or condition, management shall use its judgement in developing and applying an accounting policy that results in information that is: 1. relevant to the economic decision‑making needs of...
by exIFRS
26 Jun 2020, 17:45
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Deferred Tax re Investment in Sub - Agenda Paper 4
Replies: 2
Views: 866

Re: Deferred Tax re Investment in Sub - Agenda Paper 4

According to the original Agenda Paper in March 2020: "Many respondents say the fact pattern is common in the jurisdictions identified by the submitter (ie Estonia, Latvia, Georgia and North Macedonia). One respondent also says the fact pattern is common in Israel, and another says similar fact...
by exIFRS
15 Jun 2020, 21:48
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Change in depreciation policy-IFRS for SMEs adoption
Replies: 7
Views: 1621

Re: Change in depreciation policy-IFRS for SMEs adoption

@JRSB Pity those of us who had to write them.
by exIFRS
15 Jun 2020, 19:54
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Change in depreciation policy-IFRS for SMEs adoption
Replies: 7
Views: 1621

Re: Change in depreciation policy-IFRS for SMEs adoption

That's how I would view it, you have not been recording depreciation, you have been writing the asset off for tax purposes.
by exIFRS
15 Jun 2020, 18:42
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Change in depreciation policy-IFRS for SMEs adoption
Replies: 7
Views: 1621

Re: Change in depreciation policy-IFRS for SMEs adoption

Paragraph 35.9c of the IFRs for SMEs is generally seen to have the same meaning of Paragraph 14 of IFRS 1 (just in a simplified way). That is that you don't change estimates. However there is an override if they were clearly in error (paragraph 35.14 of the IFRS for SMEs). (Which I think is what peo...
by exIFRS
09 Jun 2020, 12:46
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: IAS 20
Replies: 8
Views: 1636

Re: IAS 20

It's a bit out of date now, I would use with caution.
by exIFRS
09 Jun 2020, 10:46
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: IAS 20
Replies: 8
Views: 1636

Re: IAS 20

Fun fact: IAS 20 is considered to be the oldest standard we still have in IFRS. The one we use today was effectively issued in April 1983 by the IASC, adopted unchanged by the IASB in 2001, and has only had minor consequential amendments based on more recently issued standards. (This point was also ...
by exIFRS
29 May 2020, 11:49
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: IFRS2
Replies: 5
Views: 1352

Re: IFRS2

I came from an environment where share based payments are very common. A very basic test we always used to apply was "Okay you say this is arms' length, can I, as an independent person outside the company, buy shares on the same terms for the same price?" The answer was usually, "Abso...
by exIFRS
16 Apr 2020, 16:26
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: IFRS15
Replies: 8
Views: 2235

Re: IFRS15

This is a more recent document you might want to conisder

https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/communication ... ipment.pdf
by exIFRS
06 Apr 2020, 20:54
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: IAS 10 Post balance sheet date events
Replies: 7
Views: 2246

Re: IAS 10 Post balance sheet date events

Court cases and IAS 10 are surprisingly divisive. Despite IAS 10 Para 9 (a) being quite emphatic. I think there is prima facie strong evidence that the court case confirms that at balance date there was a liability. The obligating event was the malfeasance. 9 (a) the settlement after the reporting p...
by exIFRS
06 Apr 2020, 20:03
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Financial Liabilities
Replies: 9
Views: 2056

Re: Financial Liabilities

Assuming it is a simple liability based on simple description it is a financial instrument, so IFRS 9 measurement applies, fair value and amortised cost approach. However, entities often measure non-interest bearing short-term payables at the invoice amount rather than fair value on the basis that a...
by exIFRS
06 Apr 2020, 18:21
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Financial Liabilities
Replies: 9
Views: 2056

Re: Financial Liabilities

Very quick thoughts A key part of the definition of a financial instrument is that it is a contract . So for your first 2 Interest payable is probably a component of a contract that is a financial instrument. Value added tax and employment income tax payable to the government are statutory, not cont...
by exIFRS
06 Apr 2020, 18:10
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Revolving credit facilities accounting
Replies: 27
Views: 62689

Re: Revolving credit facilities accounting

@pub_acco, that is the joy of a principle based accounting system. There are many "gaps" in the standards, but that is because they fall within the broader ambit of the conceptual framework. If you are interested there is a discussion from Board Member Gary Kabureck Well-written, principle...
by exIFRS
06 Apr 2020, 11:13
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Revolving credit facilities accounting
Replies: 27
Views: 62689

Re: Revolving credit facilities accounting

IFRS 9 Para 2.1 (g) excludes (most) loan commitments from IFRS 9. The Basis for conclusions (BCZ2.2 - BC2.8) goes into detail about why (its a simplification because otherwise it would be a derivative financial instrument) and discuss the exclusions at length (anything that isn't a vanilla loan comm...
by exIFRS
06 Apr 2020, 09:36
Forum: IFRS-related topics
Topic: Revolving credit facilities accounting
Replies: 27
Views: 62689

Re: Revolving credit facilities accounting

The short answer is the general view is that when the fee paid by the borrower is more in the nature of a facility fee such that the amounts and timing of the draw down and the repayment of the borrowing are at the discretion of the borrower (an overdraft fee), it is not appropriate to recognise the...
by exIFRS
04 Apr 2020, 13:09
Forum: After hours
Topic: Thoughts on a book to read during this time
Replies: 6
Views: 16161

Thoughts on a book to read during this time

A friend of mine has been asking people to recommend one book she should read during this "downtime". I think it is a nice approach, there are always lots of books you could recommend, but being asked to distil it down to one book only has a way of focusing your thinking. Me, I recommended...